👏👏👏 An outstanding short article I immensely enjoyed and that was so well-done by Michael Brainis! The Irish people’s antagonism towards Israel and love for Palestine shows the lack of proper historical education and a poor understanding of the very complex Israeli-Palestinian Conflict on the part of most Irish people. They see their own historical struggles against oppression in Palestine, but if they looked deeper they would see it’s just the opposite. Just as the indigenous Irish people were conquered and colonized by the English, so too were the Jews of the holy land conquered and colonized by the Arabs from whom the modern-day Palestinians are descended. The Irish people had lived in the Emerald Isle since the 1100s long before the English or Scottish settlers came. Likewise the Jews had lived in the land of Eretz-Israel for a millennia before the first Arab soldier or settler ever set foot in the holy land. If the conquest of Ireland by the English was not final, then why is the Arab conquest of Israel final? If it’s okay under the Foreign Births Register for ole’ Timmy McGee in Boston or Bobby O’Connell in New York City to return the land of their ancestors, then why isn’t it okay for Shlomo in Warsaw or Rivka in Baghdad to do so? This blatant hypocrisy is clear as day. I don’t know why the vast majority of Irishman can’t see it. I would argue that the Irish and Irish-Americans have more in common with the Jews and the state of Israel than they do with the Palestinians and the Palestinian cause. What’s the difference between Irish nationalism and Zionism? None! They’re the same darn thing just for different groups of people! If Irish nationalism is valid, why isn’t Zionism by the same standards? The Irish and the Jews both share a long history of centuries of shared oppression. It’s crazy to me they can’t see the very clear parallels between the two!
The Spanish Point that you make clearly reads across to those equally compromised and incoherent lefty babblers down in Spain ,as much as Ireland.
Something about being wicked to your Jews ,hardly getting you set for anything but a Francostani satrap under the Eurabian Union to come eh?
Ireland has turned into a slime puddle that can't even manage to grow a cabbage patch any more. Envious and nasty, as if Israel proves to be everything that Ireland could and should have been. Small, diaspora ,newly created and global goodwill for its outsize culture.
Now all you have is Bambi Thug and Mrs Browns Boys.....saints and scholars wasn't it ?
This is another case where it would be opportune to talk about nuance. Ireland needs to understand that they can support Israel AND the Palestinians. Supporting the Jewish people need not mean ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people. Here are some examples of nuance for Ireland. I’m glad Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were toppled respectively but I think the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were a mistake. I’m for an assault weapon ban but I don’t agree with banning all guns. I believe in laissez-faire capitalism but I also believe in a social safety net. I believe that big business and Wall Street should prosper AND support labor unions as I believe workers have the right to collectively bargain and be treated fairly. I don’t hate AI but I definitely don’t think it can or should replace human artists and writers. I think the Afghan Communists were terrible but so were the Taliban. Lastly, I think the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster was a horrific tragedy but I still support nuclear power.
Let’s say I’m an Iraqi living in the 1940s and the 1950s. I would be a proud Iraqi, support the British-backed Hashemite monarchy, support King Faisal II and Nuri al-Said, be happy to see the country’s modernization, be glad to see all the oil revenue we were making from the development of our oil fields, be overjoyed by the growth of the middle class, be proud of our ancestors in Ancient Mesopotamia, be proud I came from the cradle of civilization, read the Epic of Gilgamesh with intense interest, and love visiting Baghdad the Paris of the Middle East. At the same time, I would support the Allies in World War II and fight alongside the British, would oppose the Iraqi 1941 coup d'état and the pro-Axis government of Rashid Ali Al-Gailani, be glad when the British restored the Hashemite monarchy and returned, be appalled by and condemn the Farhud, hide Iraqi Jews in my home, reject antisemitism, support Iraq joining the Baghdad Pact in 1955, would oppose Iraq allying with Jordan and being part of the Arab coalition that invaded the newborn state of Israel, would call for good relations and open commerce between Iraq and Israel, oppose discrimination against Iraqi Jews, assist in helping Iraqi Jews get to safety in Operation Ezra and Nehemiah, and would oppose the 1958 Revolution and the Nasserite Free Officers under Colonel Abdul Salam Arif and Brigadier Abdul-Karim Qasim.
Let’s say I lived in Britain in the 1960s and the 1970s. I would be a proud British subject, wave the Union Jack with pride, celebrate St. George’s Day, love watching cricket and soccer, enjoy fish and chips, love the British royal family, vote for Harold Wilson and the Labour Party in the 1964 and 1966 General Elections, call for Britain to stay out of the Vietnam War, support the Bristol Bus Boycott, fight against racial discrimination in employment, welcome immigrants from the former British colonies, would think highly of Learie Constantine, support the women’s liberation and gay liberation movements, support legalizing the contraceptive pill, support relaxing censorship, enjoy bands like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Who, would be intrigued by all the new fashions in London, would vote for Harold Wilson and Labour in the 1970 and two 1974 elections as well, and would respect his successor James Callaghan. At the same time, I would be very concerned about mass immigration from the third world, support Enoch Powell and his “Rivers of Blood” speech on April 20, 1968, urge comprehensive immigration reform, be most concerned about high inflation and rising fuel costs, be frustrated by the constant strikes and power cuts, would support breaking the power of the trade unions, shake my head at the Winter of Discontent in 1978-1979, and would vote for Margaret Thatcher and the Conservative Party in the 1979 General Election.
Let’s say I lived in Angola in the 1960s and 1970s. I would be a proud Angolan, I would fight against discrimination and mistreatment of my people by the Portuguese, oppose the use of my people for forced labor, call for the removal of bad colonial administrators, would despise the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, would oppose the dictatorships of António de Oliveira Salazar and Carcello Caetano, advocate for greater self-autonomy for Angolans and eventual Angolan independence, would protect racism against my people, would blast land confiscation by the Portuguese, would wholeheartedly support the Carnation Revolution in April 1974, and welcome the restoration of democracy in Portugal as positive both for their people and ours. However, I would also remain loyal to the Portuguese colonial administration, would fight alongside the Portuguese colonial forces as part of their African auxiliary units, would sympathize with African chiefs loyal to the Portuguese, would tout the benefits of Portuguese colonialism, build friendships with whites and mulattos, would encourage a vision of a multiracial Angola and work to foster interracial brotherhood between indigenous black Africans and whites and mulattos, oppose and denounce violence against white settlers, would lobby the National Salvation Junta and later the Revolutionary Council to continue their countries’ colonial presence in my county, I would join up with UNITA and fight the MPLA in the Angolan Civil War, admire Jonas Savimbi, and be grateful to the United States, South Africa and Zaire for helping us fight Communism.
👏👏👏 An outstanding short article I immensely enjoyed and that was so well-done by Michael Brainis! The Irish people’s antagonism towards Israel and love for Palestine shows the lack of proper historical education and a poor understanding of the very complex Israeli-Palestinian Conflict on the part of most Irish people. They see their own historical struggles against oppression in Palestine, but if they looked deeper they would see it’s just the opposite. Just as the indigenous Irish people were conquered and colonized by the English, so too were the Jews of the holy land conquered and colonized by the Arabs from whom the modern-day Palestinians are descended. The Irish people had lived in the Emerald Isle since the 1100s long before the English or Scottish settlers came. Likewise the Jews had lived in the land of Eretz-Israel for a millennia before the first Arab soldier or settler ever set foot in the holy land. If the conquest of Ireland by the English was not final, then why is the Arab conquest of Israel final? If it’s okay under the Foreign Births Register for ole’ Timmy McGee in Boston or Bobby O’Connell in New York City to return the land of their ancestors, then why isn’t it okay for Shlomo in Warsaw or Rivka in Baghdad to do so? This blatant hypocrisy is clear as day. I don’t know why the vast majority of Irishman can’t see it. I would argue that the Irish and Irish-Americans have more in common with the Jews and the state of Israel than they do with the Palestinians and the Palestinian cause. What’s the difference between Irish nationalism and Zionism? None! They’re the same darn thing just for different groups of people! If Irish nationalism is valid, why isn’t Zionism by the same standards? The Irish and the Jews both share a long history of centuries of shared oppression. It’s crazy to me they can’t see the very clear parallels between the two!
Nice job! There are so many nice ways to say “F—- you!” (Pardon my Irish)
Ah what is good for the goose so to speak.
Brilliant analysis and historically unarguable.
The Spanish Point that you make clearly reads across to those equally compromised and incoherent lefty babblers down in Spain ,as much as Ireland.
Something about being wicked to your Jews ,hardly getting you set for anything but a Francostani satrap under the Eurabian Union to come eh?
Ireland has turned into a slime puddle that can't even manage to grow a cabbage patch any more. Envious and nasty, as if Israel proves to be everything that Ireland could and should have been. Small, diaspora ,newly created and global goodwill for its outsize culture.
Now all you have is Bambi Thug and Mrs Browns Boys.....saints and scholars wasn't it ?
Goats and Bhazai auditions coming soon.
Learn more about Irish history 🇮🇪☘️ with these titles:
* How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe by Thomas Cahill
* The Graves Are Walking: The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People by John Kelly
* In Search of Ancient Ireland: The Origins of the Irish from Neolithic Times to the Coming of the English by Carmel McCaffrey & Leo Eaton
* Modern Ireland: 1600-1972 by R.F. Foster
* The Republic: The Fight for Irish Independence 1918-1923 by Charles Townshend
* Easter 1916: The Irish Rebellion by Charles Townshend
* The Partition: Ireland Divided, 1885-1925 by Charles Townshend
* Making Sense Of The Troubles: A History of the Northern Ireland Conflict by David McKittrick & David McVea
* The Troubles: Ireland's Ordeal and the Search for Peace by Tim Pat Coogan
* Armed Struggle: The History of the IRA by Richard English
* Ten Men Dead: The Story of the 1981 Irish Hunger Strike by David Beresford
* Michael Collins: The Man Who Made Ireland by Tim Pat Coogan
* Between Two Hells: The Irish Civil War by Diarmaid Ferriter
* Jews in Twentieth-Century Ireland by Dermot Keogh
* Eamon De Valera: The Man Who Was Ireland by Tim Pat Coogan
* A New Ireland: How Europe's Most Conservative Country Became Its Most Liberal by Niall O’Dowd
* A Coward if I Return, A Hero if I Fall: Stories of Irishmen in World War I by Neil Richardson
* The Irish in the Italian Campaign, 1943-45: Men and Women of Ireland in One of the Second World War's Toughest Theatres by Richard Doherty
* The Irish in the Resistance: The Untold Stories of the Ordinary Heroes Who Resisted Hitler by Clodagh Finn & John Morgan
* The Vatican Pimpernel: The World War II Exploits of the Monsignor Who Saved Over 6,500 Lives by Brian Fleming
This is another case where it would be opportune to talk about nuance. Ireland needs to understand that they can support Israel AND the Palestinians. Supporting the Jewish people need not mean ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people. Here are some examples of nuance for Ireland. I’m glad Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were toppled respectively but I think the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were a mistake. I’m for an assault weapon ban but I don’t agree with banning all guns. I believe in laissez-faire capitalism but I also believe in a social safety net. I believe that big business and Wall Street should prosper AND support labor unions as I believe workers have the right to collectively bargain and be treated fairly. I don’t hate AI but I definitely don’t think it can or should replace human artists and writers. I think the Afghan Communists were terrible but so were the Taliban. Lastly, I think the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster was a horrific tragedy but I still support nuclear power.
Let’s say I’m an Iraqi living in the 1940s and the 1950s. I would be a proud Iraqi, support the British-backed Hashemite monarchy, support King Faisal II and Nuri al-Said, be happy to see the country’s modernization, be glad to see all the oil revenue we were making from the development of our oil fields, be overjoyed by the growth of the middle class, be proud of our ancestors in Ancient Mesopotamia, be proud I came from the cradle of civilization, read the Epic of Gilgamesh with intense interest, and love visiting Baghdad the Paris of the Middle East. At the same time, I would support the Allies in World War II and fight alongside the British, would oppose the Iraqi 1941 coup d'état and the pro-Axis government of Rashid Ali Al-Gailani, be glad when the British restored the Hashemite monarchy and returned, be appalled by and condemn the Farhud, hide Iraqi Jews in my home, reject antisemitism, support Iraq joining the Baghdad Pact in 1955, would oppose Iraq allying with Jordan and being part of the Arab coalition that invaded the newborn state of Israel, would call for good relations and open commerce between Iraq and Israel, oppose discrimination against Iraqi Jews, assist in helping Iraqi Jews get to safety in Operation Ezra and Nehemiah, and would oppose the 1958 Revolution and the Nasserite Free Officers under Colonel Abdul Salam Arif and Brigadier Abdul-Karim Qasim.
Let’s say I lived in Britain in the 1960s and the 1970s. I would be a proud British subject, wave the Union Jack with pride, celebrate St. George’s Day, love watching cricket and soccer, enjoy fish and chips, love the British royal family, vote for Harold Wilson and the Labour Party in the 1964 and 1966 General Elections, call for Britain to stay out of the Vietnam War, support the Bristol Bus Boycott, fight against racial discrimination in employment, welcome immigrants from the former British colonies, would think highly of Learie Constantine, support the women’s liberation and gay liberation movements, support legalizing the contraceptive pill, support relaxing censorship, enjoy bands like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Who, would be intrigued by all the new fashions in London, would vote for Harold Wilson and Labour in the 1970 and two 1974 elections as well, and would respect his successor James Callaghan. At the same time, I would be very concerned about mass immigration from the third world, support Enoch Powell and his “Rivers of Blood” speech on April 20, 1968, urge comprehensive immigration reform, be most concerned about high inflation and rising fuel costs, be frustrated by the constant strikes and power cuts, would support breaking the power of the trade unions, shake my head at the Winter of Discontent in 1978-1979, and would vote for Margaret Thatcher and the Conservative Party in the 1979 General Election.
Let’s say I lived in Angola in the 1960s and 1970s. I would be a proud Angolan, I would fight against discrimination and mistreatment of my people by the Portuguese, oppose the use of my people for forced labor, call for the removal of bad colonial administrators, would despise the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, would oppose the dictatorships of António de Oliveira Salazar and Carcello Caetano, advocate for greater self-autonomy for Angolans and eventual Angolan independence, would protect racism against my people, would blast land confiscation by the Portuguese, would wholeheartedly support the Carnation Revolution in April 1974, and welcome the restoration of democracy in Portugal as positive both for their people and ours. However, I would also remain loyal to the Portuguese colonial administration, would fight alongside the Portuguese colonial forces as part of their African auxiliary units, would sympathize with African chiefs loyal to the Portuguese, would tout the benefits of Portuguese colonialism, build friendships with whites and mulattos, would encourage a vision of a multiracial Angola and work to foster interracial brotherhood between indigenous black Africans and whites and mulattos, oppose and denounce violence against white settlers, would lobby the National Salvation Junta and later the Revolutionary Council to continue their countries’ colonial presence in my county, I would join up with UNITA and fight the MPLA in the Angolan Civil War, admire Jonas Savimbi, and be grateful to the United States, South Africa and Zaire for helping us fight Communism.
It should be British the indigenous people .